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Joanne Callahan (jc46@cornell.edu)
Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:03:31 -0500


really appreciate it. I keep getting "70...b14" unimplemented traps that
freeze my machine, or MacSlip carrier lost. I think I saw my own transmit
rate soar to 40kbps when I first connected to a reflector site but I have
it set at 10kpbs maximum (and minimum, which can't go below 10), frame rate
of 6, one window. Should I send /receive video without confirmation? Should
I use compression? I have turned off all audio (push to talk, send,
receive, lurkers)

I realize that 14.4 is very limited, but I want to communicate with CuSeeMe
and the QuickCam, and cannot do it at all.

Please suggest settings that, however minimal, will not result in "MacSlip
carrier lost".

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Regards.
Dave Sarlin

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:49:27 -0500
Reply-To: tomo@uclink.berkeley.edu
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From: tomo@uclink.berkeley.edu
To: <CU-SEEME-L@cornell.edu>
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Hi folks,

What port number does the Mac version of CUSeeMe use?? Also has anyone
worked out any way to serve QuickTime movies to a CUSeeMe stream??

Thanks,

Tomo

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Thomas C. O'Brien
Instructional Technology Coordinator
Academic Achievement Division
2515 Channing Way
UC Berkeley
Berkeley CA 94720

<a href="http://128.32.252.17/Tomo's_Home_Page.html">Tomo -
tomo@uclink.berkeley.edu</a>
(510) 643-9569

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 20:27:44 -0500
Reply-To: amizuno@jessica.stanford.edu
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From: amizuno@jessica.stanford.edu
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Hi !! Everybody,
Sometimes on the public reflecter, I found some guys
send TV show on CU-SeeMe. I have interest what
equipment I need to do same thing.
If you are one of these guys, please tell me yours.

Regard,

******************************
Kuniaki Mizuno
amizuno@jessica.stanford.edu
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 21:59:30 -0500
Reply-To: r.cogger@cornell.edu
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No, I don't think TIA will work.

CU-SeeMe uses UDP-- so the ports are UDP ports. I would guess that TIA
deals with TCP ports, not UDP. As CUsm currently exists, you need to be
able to send and receive UDP datagrams on port 7648. If TIA can cope with
that, or if it can be retrained to do so, then it could work (subject to
the limited bw on the modem connection). Or if you can verify, with the
makers of TIA, that they can handle UDP but need to have apps accommodate
their selection of port, which they would then map to 7648... well, we
could look at adding a choice. But so far, it seems a lot simpler not to
have one more thing that folks have to get right: all of CU-SeeMe
participants use 7648 and so do all CU-SeeMe reflectors to talk to
participants (they use 7649-50 to talk to each other and so on).

While realizing there may be practical problems, my best advice is:
consider SLIP (or other real IP) from a provider that offers it.

Cheers, -Dick

> I may make a few blunders here, kick me if I'm totally off base.
>
> I have been told that TIA will not support CU-SeeMe because TIA
>users don't have an individual IP address. But, I am guessing that CU-SeeMe
>uses a fixed port number. If so, would it be possible to add a box in the
>connect dialog to specify what port you are attempting to connect to?
> TIA 1.0.4 allows you to ask for a port number on the host machine
>to be remapped to your TIA connection. Therefore, I could request a private
>port number and have it remapped to whatever CU-SeeMe wants. This, in
>theory, would let someone connect to my Mac over TIA, just by entering my
>private port number.
>
>John Wolf <ais@cris.com>
>---
>AIS Computers | Voice: (404) 461-2147
>165 Carnegie Place | Fax: (404) 461-8628
>Fayetteville, GA 30214 | Macintosh Equ. Dealer

-Dick

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 01:47:40 -0500
Reply-To: rbenn@access.digex.net
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I have just DLed CuSeeMe and am using it with Winsock 2.0B. Is there a test
site somewhere on the net that puts out continuous video for testing the
application?

I have successfully connected to hilda.ncsc.org, but I do not receive any
video. If I connect here, should I be seeing something?

Randy

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 11:22:24 -0500
Reply-To: davsar@panix.com
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I am freezing my computer or losing my MacSLIP carrier when I try to send
via Quickcam, with a variety of options.

Some details about my setup:
MacSLIP 2.0.4
System 7.0
CuSeeMe 70b14
Audio send, enabled for push to talk
32 bit addressing on
Supra Faxmodem 144LC @14.4kbps
Mac Centris 610, 8 mb ram, 230 mb hard disk with disk doubler, 12 meg free
Quickcam purchased last weekend-will look for details of system
version-works very well for photos, movies
lots of INITS

Symptoms:
Whenever I connect with an active site (reflector message, at least one
sender) I connect but am then soon (5 secs) receiving one of the following
messages:

Sorry, a system error occurred-CuSeeMe 70b14 unimplemented trap-restart

Finder-unimplemented trap-restart

MacSLIP carrier lost.

I have tried to send with 2 windows, 10kbps maximum, frame rate <=6, and
with a number of other configurations..

I left defaults for audio and for video compression.

Regards,
Dave
Dave Sarlin
574 W. End Ave
NYC, NY 10024

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 13:33:42 -0500
Reply-To: jher@eden.com
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(sorry if you get this twice, I don't how many folks are on the announce list
since its brand new)

We are once again showing machine screw over cuseeme! This occurs
this Friday night but the clincher this time is that we WILL have sound.
The Eden Matrix and Freeside Communications (both internet providers in Austin)
are teaming up and driving to Machine Screws hometown, New Orleans to
transmit a shared feed. You can watch the show on both ours and freesides
reflector.
Ours is 199.171.21.1 and thiers is 198.6.198.2
Show starts at 10pm CST.
There will be cameras from CBS and most likely MTV. So if you miss the show
you might catch us on the National News or MTV news.

Its gonna be a real kick. Hope to see you there!
-jher

For further info check out these web pages...
http://www.eden.com/voodoo/voodoo.html
http://www.fc.net/machinescrew.html

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 15:33:38 -0500
Reply-To: lynn.connors@acadiau.ca
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From: lynn.connors@acadiau.ca
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Subject:

Does anyone have any information (suppliers/prices) on small
monitor-mount (or monitor-sit) video cameras that can be used
for cu-seeme?

--
Lynn Connors, Network Analyst       Acadia University, Computer Centre
internet  lynn.connors@acadiau.ca   Wolfville, NS  Canada  B0P 1X0
(902) 542-2201 x1587                fax (902) 542-4364

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:51:58 -0500 Reply-To: kennerly@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu Sender: owner-CU-SEEME-L@cornell.edu From: kennerly@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu To: <CU-SEEME-L@cornell.edu> Subject:

Windows Users: To connect to a certain reflector everytime upon startup you can do this:

* Select the CU-SeeMe Icon and hit alt-enter to get the 'Program Item Properties' menu up. Then add the reflector address or name to the end of the Command Line.

-Rich Kennerly - <rbk1@cornell.edu> PC Windows CU-SeeMe developer

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We are using CU-SeeMe for Mac as well as for the PC. Is there a way to tell CUSM to connect to a specific site on start-up? I'd like to use a configuration file with the information where to connect to.

Thanks,

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> Reply to: RE>Quickcam problems >CU-SeeMe does not work at 14.4Kbps; as the README file Cornell supplies clearly >indicates, using CU-SeeMe with a modem slower than 32Kbps results in a minimum >of no audio, other problems may result, as well. The errors you are seeing seem >to be coming from CU-SeeMe--they are not errors reported from the QuickCam >software. > >We have had two reports of cases where the QuickCam software may have >"influenced" data on the other port. Then again, it could be an Apple ROM >problem where some system software doesn't isolate the port on some machines. >Either way, we are trying to find a replicable case to attempt to isolate the >problem. I don't believe this is your problem, however. > >If you are trying to use QuickCam to videoconference via modem, the only >product I've heard any reports about working reliably is Being There by >Intelligence at Large. Most organizations, ourselves included, only do video >conferencing through high speed networks and internet backbones (256Kbps or >higher). As AT&T has so conveniently shown through their videophones, a >standard phone channel has about enough bandwidth to do telephone quality sound >and one frame of video every few seconds, which everyone we talk to does not >regard as good enough for useful video conferencing. > >I am passing your problem report on to technical support >(support@connectix.com) for further followup. > >-teh > >-------------------------------------- >Date: 12/14/94 8:28 AM >To: QuickCam >From: dave sarlin > >Subject: Quickcam problems >From: dave sarlin <davsar@panix.com> >Attn: quickcam >Return-Path: davsar@panix.com >Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by holonet.net with SMTP > id IAA27743; Wed, 14 Dec 1994 08:18:49 -0800 >Received: from davsar.dialup.access.net by panix.com with SMTP id AA24139 > (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <quickcam@connectix.com>); Wed, 14 Dec 1994 11:18:41 -0500 >Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 11:18:41 -0500 >Message-Id: <199412141618.AA24139@panix.com> >X-Sender: davsar@panix.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: cu-seeme-l@cornell.edu >Cc: quickcam@connectix.com >X-Mailer: <PC Eudora Version 1.4b22> > >I am freezing my computer or losing my MacSLIP carrier when I try to send >via Quickcam, with a variety of options. > >Some details about my setup: >MacSLIP 2.0.4 >System 7.0 >CuSeeMe 70b14 >Audio send, enabled for push to talk >32 bit addressing on >Supra Faxmodem 144LC @14.4kbps >Mac Centris 610, 8 mb ram, 230 mb hard disk with disk doubler, 12 meg free >Quickcam purchased last weekend-will look for details of system >version-works very well for photos, movies >lots of INITS > >Symptoms: >Whenever I connect with an active site (reflector message, at least one >sender) I connect but am then soon (5 secs) receiving one of the following >messages: > >Sorry, a system error occurred-CuSeeMe 70b14 unimplemented trap-restart > >Finder-unimplemented trap-restart > >MacSLIP carrier lost. > >I have tried to send with 2 windows, 10kbps maximum, frame rate <=6, and >with a number of other configurations.. > >I left defaults for audio and for video compression. > >Regards, >Dave >Dave Sarlin >574 W. End Ave >NYC, NY 10024 > > > > > > Thom,

I have received assurances from others that I can indeed use Quickcam at 14.4 with CUSeeMe. I will settle for very slow refresh and no audio, but want to avoid rejection for unimplemented traps or losing my MacSlip carrier. If any people successfully using this setup could help me, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks, Dave Dave Sarlin 574 W. End Ave NYC, NY 10024

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