Re: CU crashing with Compro and Is there a better video conferencing software product ???

Curran Clan (
Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:03:28 +0800

Catherine Curran
of the Curran Clan
Warnbro , West Australia

@ Warnbro Community High School

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: From: Jason Williams <>
: To: Curran Clan <>
: Cc:
: Subject: Re: CU crashing with Compro and Is there a better video
conferencing software product ???
: Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 3:11 PM
: On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Curran Clan wrote:
: > I am new to CU-See Me so maybe I need to give it another go , but I am
: > impressed at all. I have used
: > ( Phone now for
: > year without complaint. With the addition of a full duplex sound card ,
: > am able to conference with the rellys in the United States from
: > daily .
: Keep in mind... Internet Phone (which is up to 5.0 I believe) is designed
: for point to point conferencing...NOT multipoint conferencing. Gotta
: compare apples to apples..not just all fruit.

You are absolutely right on this point . That is another advantage for
CUSeeMe use at schools. I thought of another one . Schools are listed at
sites such as

: > Contrast this with the black and white CUSeeMe video that remains a lot
: > unscrambled pixels 10 minutes into the conversation.
: Enhanced CU does color.. The B&W Cornell version is free..I haven't seen
: free version of Internet Phone :)

another good point ....

: As far as being scambled...that has a lot to do with your settings. Last
: I checked, Internet Phone doesn't let you regulate your settings
settings are not necessary just click a user or invite a user to private
channel onVocal Tec . BTW there is another bit of software also called
Internet Phone .
at it appears to be an audio only product from
another company.

: > And CUSeeMe reflector
: > sites where all users leave thier headsets off and write in text
: > because the audio is clumsy , memory consuming , and incomprehensible.
: Actually, from what I've see..people don't use audio for OTHER reasons.
: It's much easier and widely accepted to use the chat window to
: communicate.

It is true that it is the modeto use chat still but the audio on VTIP is
automatic and doesnot require pushing a tlk button . Does 3.1 have a talk

Imagine having several versions of Internet Phone, each with
: different levels of support for audio and you'd have the same thing
: happening. Internet Phone doesn't handle chat window activity very
: cleanly at all. CU-SeeMe does.
Mine does chat and whiteboard with no worries .

: It wasn't until just a year or so ago when attempting audio at all over a
: modem connection was "incomprehensible".
very valid argument also...

: > Trying to find a current reflector list is not easy either. I have not
: > found any of these sites to be different ( )

: I've tried to point White Pine to my reflector's updated
: automatically daily for current reflectors. Try

: > Does it get better ? Is there a color /audio/user list on site version
: White Pine's version does do color and has several lower bandwidth audio
: codecs.
: > If you are seeing color and getting fast full duplex sound with CU-See
: > than please share your methods and your reflector sites with me.
: The reflectors vary in their support for audio....
: As mentioned above...until recently, doing audio on a modem was
: impossible... EXPECTING 30fps and crystal clear audio on a modem is still
: just a fantasy.
: > The only advantage that I see thus far is that CU-See Me seems safer
: > more sane. I must open up a private channel on Vocal Tec Internet Phone
: > because there are numerous users looking for others that share there
: > fetish.
: That's a problem in general of videoconferencing programs that use
: directory servers. There's no way to limit who can connect to them.
: CU-SeeMe separates people by reflectors...different types of reflectors
: catering to different groups.
That is my rationale for trying to make CU SeeMe work at school.
I really appreciate the seperation provided by CUSeeMe.

: > It is not a censored site. I have just installed a camera at the
: > school where I teach . Since there are an appalling number of users
: > cyber sex on the VocalTec Internet Phone , I suggested that we try the
: > SeeMe that came with our Cam it is version 92b.
: You can also disconnect from the directory server I believe...not sure
: though since I don't use Internet Phone much.
: > Perhaps things are a LOT better in 3.1
: It provides color and lower bandwidth audio...but, while the
: inefficiencies of 0.92b2 may be corrected, it has its own set of
: (BTW..I've had great success with audio on 0.92b2)
: --Thank you so much for your detailed reply .

Seasons Greetings!!!!

: * Jason Williams -- Austin, Tx. | |
: * University of Texas at Austin | ___ |
: * BS Computer Science \_|_/
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