Re: Reflector lists...PLEASE READ THIS!

Travis (
Tue, 2 Jan 96 1:52:24 EST

This is very true! In fact is just changed my conference id number less
than 10 minutes ago as a result of connecting to my reflector and finding
several nude men logged in. While my login screen states that topics of
conversation may contain adult matter it does not imply that pornography
is accepted. However, I do not think it is fair to simply deny access to
the reflector for everyone since the reason I put it up was for its use.
My solution is to periodically monitor the reflector as well as change the
conference id every now and again. The main thing is to try to limit the
way the IP address is given out. I try to select those people that I
think will not do such things and hope that those people will do the same
in turn, etc....

Forever watching,

Travis (HillBilly)

In response to:

Hi Mike. Your not the only one to experience this. I was also shocked and
saddened to find that this behavior was happening on our public
reflector site at the University of Maine a few months ago. (perticularly
late at night). It's interesting to note that the source IP addresses for
these obscene feeds were also changing (as if) it was put on a type of gay
reflector list. As a result, I closed our site (which had been up for over
1 year) to the public. (possibliy for good). It had started out as an
experiment in Video Conferencing for the usergroup in my department.

I don't know if this is going to be a trend, so take heed if your operate a
public reflector.

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Paul Scott Troutman FAX: (207)-581-4824
PC/UNIX Specialist VOICE: (207)-581-1652
University of Maine VOICE: (207)-581-1732
Administrative Information Systems 117 Alumni Hall, Orono Maine 04473

On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Mike McCool wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
> I have just been looking through John Beckers list for reflectors and was
> shocked to read the comments describing the reflector at this site.
> Target64= *Univ Ulster (IR)
> ;Reflector Name: Interactive Systems Centre, Magee College, Univ of Ulster
> ;Location: Northern Ireland
> ;Contact: Mike McCool
> ;Web Page:
> ;DNS:
> ;Last Response: 10/23/95
> ;Comments: Heavy usage by gay males;
> I would like to point out the following:
> This is not a gay reflector, nor was it set up to be a gay reflector and I,
> as the maintainer, object to it being "ADVERTISED" or "LABELLED" as being
> such !
> It is however (for the moment), a "PUBLIC" 24hr reflector that runs within
> the infrastructure of a University Research Centre and is used extensively
> by Universities, Schools and Community Groups both locally and
> internationally for research purposes. "EVERYONE" is welcome to use it but
> I would emphasise that neither appearing naked nor the sexual harrassment
> of other users are appropriate on a reflector such as this and cannot be
> tolerated.
> It is only lately that I have become aware that some visitors to our
> reflector were behaving in ways inappropriate to a research/education
> server. My ignorance of these activities was because they usually took
> place outside of normal working hours (GMT here), the unwanted visitors
> coming mainly from the USA.
> I have now taken steps to prevent similar activities from taking place in
> the future. I have banned the IP sets of persons I have caught flashing and
> behaving inappropriately. I have also emailed ISP's regarding their users
> behaviour (the ones I managed to trace), and I have issued a warning in the
> reflector login message window that they are not welcome. I may in the
> future have to close the reflector down outside of office hours if these
> activities do not cease.
> Im quite sure that John Becker meant well in the production of this list.
> In fact I congratulate him on such a comprehensive and very useful listing
> but I do hope the above will be reflected in his soon to be updated
> reflector list and suggest that in future, before comments like these are
> published that the maintainers of reflector sites be informed.
> Regards and a Very Happy New Year to all!
> Mike McCool
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> Magee College
> University of Ulster
> Derry Tel: +44 1504 375405
> N.Ireland. Fax: +44 1504 370040
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Travis Hoyt <>
          Morehead State University  

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