Re: Pornography - the solution?

Cliff Perry (
Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:15:24 -0800 (PST)

GOD, this topic just pisses me off! I'm SORRY to waste bandwidth here, but..
there will FOREVER be folks that don't like nudity, etc. for whatever
reasons, and more "liberal" people who see nothing wrong with it. (I'm
in the latter group). I believe that there should be either a rating system
or "membership" system or something, so that there are "family" reflectors
and "adult" reflectors, and neither group should interfere with each other's
pursuit of "happiness". (I actually believe that CUSEEME has the potential
for serving a multitude of purposes for society, from education to business
to exploring new countries through its people, to even "safe sex" EGADS!)
I don't believe that people should use "public" reflectors for "non-public"
purposes, but "public" users should not be offended if they see something on
a non-public reflector that they don't like.....JUST CHANGE THE CHANNEL !!!

Now that I've vented, I feel much better now and think I'll go 'lurkin.
Again, sorry for the use of bandwidth.

On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Brian McGugan wrote:

> Kevin Said:
> >Hi,
> >I have been looking for reflectors to test the cuseeme but every time some guy
> >try to show
> >his manhoodnes. And few days later reflector is shutdown.
> >
> Yes I was watching last night and some woman opened her shirt. I was not
> shocked, except why is this happening? Are people really that repressed
> that they have to show their bodies with this medium? Why do people not do
> this on the street (rhetorical).There is nothing new there, nothing
> special. In other words we've all seen it all before... do these people
> secretly fantasize about being porn stars or something? Interesting
> psychological phenomenon...
> >I don't think rejecting the IP addresses will help. because most of the IP
> >addresses are dynamic.
> >I don't think shutdown of the reflector is the answer, because the rest of us
> >have to pay for those
> >peoples behavior.
> >
> >I think the people how abuse this system are intelligent enough to use it, but
> >stupid enough to display
> >such behaviors.
> >
> >I think having to display the rating system for the reflector would improve
> >the situation. So if somebody
> >likes to display himself he goes to the gays only reflector. And if everybody
> >stops watching this guys
> >then they may go away. Not the reflectors.
> >
> And I agree! Don't fight, adapt and incorporate. Perhaps if we were less
> excited about this stuff ourselves, and allowed sites where this goes on w/
> an age/consent password or something, then these persons would stick with
> the kinds that they like. This is not a big problem on IRC I don't think...
> Bri
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